My experience with BPOS

It’s been about 6 weeks since we have started using Microsoft’s Business Productivity Online Suite (BPOS), and I think it’s a good time to write down a few thoughts about our experience with the service. I’ve scoured the web for reviews when we were in our planning phase, and it was very difficult to find any real world reviews. I have had a couple of requests to describe our experience with BPOS, but I just haven’t had enough time to put down all my thoughts on paper. I hope to write more about our problems and solutions hopefully soon as well.

Let’s start with the good.

Support

I can’t praise the support reps enough that I have spoken to over the past few weeks. I haven’t had this great level of service from any other company before. The reps really went out of their way to help us as much as they could. Again, I can’t thank these guys enough for all their help. There is one caveat. Since this is still relatively a new service, they don’t have all the answers. That’s not their fault by any means, and I only expect it to get better as the service matures. Even when they didn’t have the answers, they went out of their way to help us during our migration and the issues we had afterwards.

Setup

Overall, the setup to get the migration and directory sync was relatively simple. First you have to decide whether you want to live in a coexistance mode vs. strictly using BPOS. Chances are that if you have Exchange on premise, you’ll spend some time living in co-existance mode before fully switching to BPOS. I’ll write about this in a separate entry.

Mailbox Sizes

Recently, Microsoft made a decision to increase everyone’s mailbox limit to 25GB. That doesn’t mean you have to give it all to your users, but it’s nice to know that we have space available if we need it. We don’t give our users the max size because that would mean more forwards and chain-letters stored in their inbox.

Now on to the not-so-good.

Service Uptime

Microsoft has published a RSS feed with notifications about the online services. When I first started going through the feed, I was worried. It seemed that every few days they had some issue affecting the mail servers. In fact, 3 weeks into our service, we had a downtime of almost 2 hours. The good news is that it didn’t affect all of our users. This can be both a good and bad thing depending on who you’re asking. Since I was on the server that went down, I wasn’t thrilled. We haven’t had any major issues since that event, and I expect the uptime to get better as they work out the kinks.

Ancillary Services

One thing we quickly learned after signing up with BPOS is that each piece of the puzzle is handled by multiple departments – 13 total from what I was told. For example, we have signed up to use the Exchange Hosted Archiving solution for our company. The service setup took much longer than expected. Once the order was put in, it took a few business days for the service to be activated. In fact, it’s been over 5 business days since we put in our request for email encryption and we still don’t have the service activated. One thing I want to point out is that this was made known to us from the very beginning. We knew going into this that the setup would not be quick. Once again, as the service matures, I expect this setup process to drastically reduce in time.

Final Thoughts

I am in no way regretting our decision to move to BPOS. If anything, I will miss having a local Exchange server to administer, but this does leave me some room to move on to other projects.

I cannot stress enough about the great support we have received from the reps. Even our rep for our Hosted Archiving has been nothing but helpful. They really have made the service a great experience. I hope that Microsoft commends them for their work.

Even though I have listed a couple of negative points here, I really don’t consider them that bad. I knew that this was a relatively new service and that we would experience a few bumps along the way. If you don’t have the patience to deal with minor bumps, then BPOS is not the service for you – at least not at this point in time.  This service will get better over time, but for now expect some bumps along the way.

If there is something specific you would like to know, please leave a comment. If I have any experience with it, I will be more than glad to let you know how it went.  I still have more to write about how we dealt with BPOS internally, but I’ll have to save that for another entry.

Taz is slowly waking up. Father mode ON.

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  • Nanookz

    Thank you for posting your experience. I look forward to any future posts you might have with the service. I have watched the rss feeds and I have the same concerns that you did. I need to to talk this over with my boss to see if an occasional outage is acceptable for the overall benefit and redundancy.

    Have you found any features that your organization uses that are not available in bpos vs onsite?

  • Nanookz

    Thank you for posting your experience. I look forward to any future posts you might have with the service. I have watched the rss feeds and I have the same concerns that you did. I need to to talk this over with my boss to see if an occasional outage is acceptable for the overall benefit and redundancy.

    Have you found any features that your organization uses that are not available in bpos vs onsite?

  • http://blogs.technet.com/msonline/ Josh T

    Thank you for posting this story. This is a great opportunity for a conversation with other users. I tweeted this post to my followers and hopefully some will respond. Here is a list of other spaces to talk about Microsoft BPOS if you’re interested:
    Twitter- @msonline
    MSOnline blog – http://blogs.technet.com/msonline/
    Forum -http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/microsoftonlineservices/
    Facebook page- http://www.facebook.com/MicrosoftOnlineServices

    Thanks again for posting this story and let’s keep the conversation rolling.

  • http://blogs.technet.com/msonline/ Josh T

    Thank you for posting this story. This is a great opportunity for a conversation with other users. I tweeted this post to my followers and hopefully some will respond. Here is a list of other spaces to talk about Microsoft BPOS if you’re interested:
    Twitter- @msonline
    MSOnline blog – http://blogs.technet.com/msonline/
    Forum -http://social.technet.microsoft.com/Forums/en-US/category/microsoftonlineservices/
    Facebook page- http://www.facebook.com/MicrosoftOnlineServices

    Thanks again for posting this story and let’s keep the conversation rolling.

  • Jake

    Great review. Are any of your systems running Outlook 2003? In our sandbox testing, Outlook 2003 seems a bit flaky. For example, we have trouble seeing free/busy information using it. Yes, I’ve installed the Outlook Connector :-)

  • Jake

    Great review. Are any of your systems running Outlook 2003? In our sandbox testing, Outlook 2003 seems a bit flaky. For example, we have trouble seeing free/busy information using it. Yes, I’ve installed the Outlook Connector :-)

  • RebeccaN

    Jim, thanks for your fair and balanced review, and your patience. I don’t know if your vendor provided you with this information, or maybe you’ve already been there, but I’d like to recommend the Microsot Business Resource Center. While it does require registration, you’ll gain access to articles, videos and other SMB owners to discuss your experiences with .

    Microsoft Business Resource Center:
    http://bit.ly/MSmbrc

    I hope you find this site helpful, and best of luck to you!

    Cheers,
    Rebecca
    The Microsoft SMB Outreach Team
    v-renewk@microsoft.com

  • RebeccaN

    Jim, thanks for your fair and balanced review, and your patience. I don’t know if your vendor provided you with this information, or maybe you’ve already been there, but I’d like to recommend the Microsot Business Resource Center. While it does require registration, you’ll gain access to articles, videos and other SMB owners to discuss your experiences with .

    Microsoft Business Resource Center:
    http://bit.ly/MSmbrc

    I hope you find this site helpful, and best of luck to you!

    Cheers,
    Rebecca
    The Microsoft SMB Outreach Team
    v-renewk@microsoft.com

  • Pat L

    Great review. I am thinking about using this for my company as well. I was curious on two things. Are you using any Blackberries? We have a BES and I was wondering if you can do an on premise BES with BPOS.
    My second question is for accidentally deleted email. Are you able to get back any information or perform backups for this? Have you run into needing to get an email that a user deleted?

    Thanks in advance.

  • Pat L

    Great review. I am thinking about using this for my company as well. I was curious on two things. Are you using any Blackberries? We have a BES and I was wondering if you can do an on premise BES with BPOS.
    My second question is for accidentally deleted email. Are you able to get back any information or perform backups for this? Have you run into needing to get an email that a user deleted?

    Thanks in advance.

  • http://www.championsg.com Kevin Vogl

    We have been on BPOS since Feb 2010. We were a Lotus Notes shop and the migration went better than expected. Outlook has been a great thing instead of the Notes Client but the Live Meeting part has really turn into some that we use often and the Office Communicator is working great. We are waiting on Sharepoint 2010 before we do any big in Sharepoint. Does any one know if Outlook 2003 is going to work with Exchange Online 2010 since it is not a support product any more.

  • http://www.championsg.com Kevin Vogl

    We have been on BPOS since Feb 2010. We were a Lotus Notes shop and the migration went better than expected. Outlook has been a great thing instead of the Notes Client but the Live Meeting part has really turn into some that we use often and the Office Communicator is working great. We are waiting on Sharepoint 2010 before we do any big in Sharepoint. Does any one know if Outlook 2003 is going to work with Exchange Online 2010 since it is not a support product any more.

  • Sys Admin

    Hi,
    We have been evaluating BPOS for the last 3 months and overall we’re happy about and made the decision to use it.
    From our 3 months we’ve seen these issues:
    1. It seems like the Hoseted Blackberry Environment is very crowded and suffers too many “mini outages”. These mini outages, in our exprience, was 5-6 users getting slow deliveries and once we open a ticket with support they moved them to a different server.
    2. Users with flaky internet connections tend to suffer from disconnection.

    Overall, we like the service as it will offload work from IT, provide better availability than we can achieve on premise and provides built in DR which is must for our company.

    As a question to Jim, I wanted to know how stable has the service been since April 2010?

    Thanks much

  • Sys Admin

    Hi,
    We have been evaluating BPOS for the last 3 months and overall we’re happy about and made the decision to use it.
    From our 3 months we’ve seen these issues:
    1. It seems like the Hoseted Blackberry Environment is very crowded and suffers too many “mini outages”. These mini outages, in our exprience, was 5-6 users getting slow deliveries and once we open a ticket with support they moved them to a different server.
    2. Users with flaky internet connections tend to suffer from disconnection.

    Overall, we like the service as it will offload work from IT, provide better availability than we can achieve on premise and provides built in DR which is must for our company.

    As a question to Jim, I wanted to know how stable has the service been since April 2010?

    Thanks much

  • Matt Fosdick

    I’d like to add my experience with the Exchange Online portion of BPOS. We have just moved from Groupwise to exchange online with the help of Janalent a Microsoft partner of the year 2009 vendor and Quest migration tools. I can not say enough good things about either one of these companies. The Janalent technicians and project managers were very knowledgable and helpful and the quest tools worked exactly as expected including a very detailed migration/error log. On the Microsoft side I have to disagree with Jim on this one. When doing a migration you are required to have “receive as” rights granted to a migrator account. This is a VERY common thing in a migration. For us this took no less than a small army and an act of God to accomplish. Not one of the level1 or level2 tech support people at BPOS even know what the rights are. Please call for yourself 866.676.6546 (I can safely say this as we have contacted well over a dozen of them in the three week time frame this took.) In order to get to the people that do make the changes, your ticket needs to go from tech lvl1 to tech lvl2 to tech lvl3 and finally to the hosting department. Please keep in mind there are delays between each of these levels and no one takes ownership of your issue. At one point I received a voicemail from one of the BPOS techs that said “Hi Matt, I’m glad you are NOT there, I think I figured out the issue. I was just given a template with lots of pictures on how to submit your ticket correctly. I will resubmit this now and hopefully this will work. Oh, and thanks for calling Microsoft support” Keep in mind this is after paying my migration team to sit idle all week because of this. Ultimately, it took calls to Microsoft management to beat heads together in hosting to get this accomplished.

  • Matt Fosdick

    I’d like to add my experience with the Exchange Online portion of BPOS. We have just moved from Groupwise to exchange online with the help of Janalent a Microsoft partner of the year 2009 vendor and Quest migration tools. I can not say enough good things about either one of these companies. The Janalent technicians and project managers were very knowledgable and helpful and the quest tools worked exactly as expected including a very detailed migration/error log. On the Microsoft side I have to disagree with Jim on this one. When doing a migration you are required to have “receive as” rights granted to a migrator account. This is a VERY common thing in a migration. For us this took no less than a small army and an act of God to accomplish. Not one of the level1 or level2 tech support people at BPOS even know what the rights are. Please call for yourself 866.676.6546 (I can safely say this as we have contacted well over a dozen of them in the three week time frame this took.) In order to get to the people that do make the changes, your ticket needs to go from tech lvl1 to tech lvl2 to tech lvl3 and finally to the hosting department. Please keep in mind there are delays between each of these levels and no one takes ownership of your issue. At one point I received a voicemail from one of the BPOS techs that said “Hi Matt, I’m glad you are NOT there, I think I figured out the issue. I was just given a template with lots of pictures on how to submit your ticket correctly. I will resubmit this now and hopefully this will work. Oh, and thanks for calling Microsoft support” Keep in mind this is after paying my migration team to sit idle all week because of this. Ultimately, it took calls to Microsoft management to beat heads together in hosting to get this accomplished.

  • Terry C.

    Regarding migrations it is not clear to me whether Microsoft provides instructions and native tools, offers migration services, and/or recommends one of their preferred partners. It appears from reading the article and comments that author’s company performed a DIY migration while MFosdick’s company leverage a third party and Quest tools. Obviously there are many factors in making a decision on a migration path, as such I would be interested in knowing a bit more about the tools and information Microsoft offer, scope of what those tools can and cannot do in support of the migration and coexistence, and the level of support provided.

  • Terry C.

    Regarding migrations it is not clear to me whether Microsoft provides instructions and native tools, offers migration services, and/or recommends one of their preferred partners. It appears from reading the article and comments that author’s company performed a DIY migration while MFosdick’s company leverage a third party and Quest tools. Obviously there are many factors in making a decision on a migration path, as such I would be interested in knowing a bit more about the tools and information Microsoft offer, scope of what those tools can and cannot do in support of the migration and coexistence, and the level of support provided.